Monday, June 21, 2004

Don't Feed the Animals!

I'm about to make a statement that may shock and outrage some people. It could be interpreted as bigoted, hateful, and uncaring. It might even be considered (shudder) politically incorrect.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT ABU GHRAIB!

Ahh, that feels better.

Here's the truth: The liberals in America got wind of the "torture" (read: embarrassment) of some prisoners in Iraq and decided that Rumsfeld should resign. After all, he was the one who was torturing those poor men, right?

Good grief! We embarrassed some enemies while they were our POWs, and it's being treated like we beheaded every last one of them. Why? The Dems say it's because "we aren't winning their hearts and minds with this kind of behavior." For Pete's sake, there is *no way* to win their hearts and minds. They have been taught from childhood that America is the "Great Satan" because it supports Israel, and that America must be defeated. Each time we try to be nice to them, each time we go out of our way to make sure they understand our goodwill, they only repay us with terrorism. They won't understand kindness, because they view that as weakness.

I feel that the liberals in America tend to hold a double standard in war. They want to put our soldiers on trial for embarrassing a few prisoners, while they are saying nothing about the Iraqi guards who repeatedly raped and beat their prisoners. The liberals call it bigotry when someone refers to the Muslim world as "backward" and "uncivilized," claiming that we should treat them like a highly civilized people capable of democracy even though the Muslims have never experienced democracy and haven't the slightest clue of how it works. Amid their exaltations of the obviously morally superior radical Muslims (they never invaded another country unilaterally, right?), they call on the U.S. to treat the prisoners like dignitaries, complete with banquets and caviar.

That's stupid. First they argue that the Muslims are just as advanced in their knowledge as we are, and then they tell us that the Muslims should be allowed using barbaric means such as terrorism (i.e., in Israel) because they are backward and that is the only means available to them. Then they argue that we should treat the barbarian radicals even more kindly than we treat prisoners from our own country.

I know that seems like horrible logic, and that's because it is. Lest you think that I'm living in a dream world and that even the liberals wouldn't use such faulty arguments, I must tell you that I have been in arguments where those arguments were all used. Liberals generally have somewhat differing opinions, just as conservatives do, and therefore the arguments I have mentioned don't apply to all liberals, but I have seen that they do use such erroneous reasoning.

Allow me to say that I am not actually bigoted. Not all Muslims are "barbarians." However, the Wahabi and Shiite sects are both radical and militant, and they, along with other militant sects, make up a large part of the Muslim population. Militant and radical Muslims are barbarians; I stand by that and I won't recant. Remember the people who danced in the streets in Palestine on 9/11? They were barbarians. Remember the guerillas who try to blow up our soldiers? They are barbarians. If we capture them, we should not interrogate them over crumpets and tea. We should intimidate them and scare the crap out of them until they talk. Pump some Truth Serum into them, for goodness' sake. If our enemies won't abide by the rules of war, we shouldn't feel obligated to abide by them either when dealing with such animals.

I won't condone the sexual perversion of the Abu Ghraib incident. It was sinful. However, the outrage over the whole thing is completely overblown. Nick Berg was beheaded, not embarrassed, and none of his captors were worried about winning the hearts and minds of Americans. I have seen much more coverage of Abu Ghraib than of Nick Berg, and personally, I would rather the media not try to mislead me into thinking that we are the bad guys by covering our mistakes more than our enemy's intentional and planned atrocities.

We are fighting a new kind of enemy in this war; the kind that has no conscience and will do anything for the sake of Allah (and perhaps the 70 virgins he thinks he will get upon death). These animals (people, whatever) cannot be won to our side because they have already made up their minds for Allah.

The Radical Muslims will only understand a show of force, just like disobedient little kids. Children will not stop disobedient activity if they are offered candy. They will only intensify their disobedience because they see the result of their actions is something good. Humans tend to associate actions with their consequences. If an action brings about something good, we consider the action good. This goes back to the "sowing and reaping" principle; we know that we reap things of the same character of that which we sowed. The radicals see themselves blowing up and beheading Americans, and then they see their prisoners being released. Since they want more prisoners released, can you guess what they are going to do? As the saying goes, "Don't feed the animals."

We must wake up and take a good whiff of reality. Our enemies must be defeated, and the only way to achieve that is through force. It's pretty sad when a country like America's bark is worse than its bite, but when we can't even bark like we're tough, it spells doom.

Peace (through strength), Y'all.

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5 Comments:

At Mon Jun 21, 05:39:00 PM, Blogger D2M said...

*nods* I agree! :D

 
At Mon Jun 21, 11:24:00 PM, Blogger D2M said...

I don't care about Abu Ghraib either. Mostly because it was just... over done. In fact, everything in the news is over done. It's like they're broken records, repeating the same thing over and over and over again. I hate that.

What's even worse was that the whole situation was being dealt with BEFORE the Big Media even found out! All the news world did was make everything more public... and gave one more reason for the "enemy" to hate us. (Not that it would matter in the long run.)

Blah, that's the sorta thing that ya just want to forget ever happened and never do again.

*sighs* Doomed if ya do, and doomed if ya don't. Even when the USA is one of the most powerful nations in the world, it's still treated like an underdog. (Unless we point guns..)

 
At Tue Jun 22, 02:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys have obviously tuned out this story so completely that you haven't really been following what's going on. You might want to start paying attention again because new facts and revelations have been coming through week by week since the shocking photos first broke.

First of all, it was not the result of a few wayward soldiers just yukking it up and having a good time. While it's true the individual soldiers are morally culpable for going along with acts of torture, which include rape, murder, and vicious dog attacks as well as sexual humiliation, there is growing evidence that they were, indeed, acting on orders. You might want to look into the news stories that focus on the role of the military intelligence units and the tactics they approved to increase the amount of "actionable intelligence" from Iraqi prisoners.

Keep in mind, too, that the US and the Red Cross have admitted that up to 70-90% of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib were completely innocent and not there on account of any wrongdoing. So most of the prisoners were not, in fact, sworn enemies of the United States.

The bigger issue looming in the background here, though, is whether we, as a country, are willing to sanction the use of torture to acquire military intelligence as a matter of US policy. I, for one, am not willing to do this. I believe in basic, fundamental human rights. I believe these human rights are inalienable. And I believe these human rights have been given to us by God.

I think President Bush fundamentally agrees with this position, or at least I hope he does. After all, he did recognize that we needed to apologize for what those soldiers did. And he did it. I was proud of him. Apologies are not signs of weakness. As Christians, we can recognize that an apology is a sign of strength in our faith.

And, even in the secular world of big power politics, moral authority is an important currency that helps us exercise influence. In short, there are both practical and moral arguments in favor of apology (and standards of conduct).

On a practical level, liberals (and a heck of a lot of conservatives as well) believe the United States should follow one standard as we pursue the war on terror: the standard set by the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Conventions apply during wartime, but also enshrine the basic principles of human rights we respect even when we are at peace. It's simply not appropriate to compare what Saddam Hussein's jailers did to Iraqi prisoners with what happened at Abu Ghraib. We follow the rule of law, both internationally and domestically, and tyrants don't. End of story. (And if this really is a "double standard," I think it's most definitely one we should keep up! I rather like the rule of law, don't you?)

(Incidentally, I think most liberals have loudly protested Saddam's regime in Iraq for years. Just FYI -- they are also horrified about Kim Jong Il's cruel and barbaric treatment of the North Koreans. If you don't hear about the liberal "outrage" against North Korea, it's because the condemnation is so widely shared that it's not newsworthy and picked up by major media outlets.)

Also, and I think this is a rather important point, a lot of Muslims really do live in democracies. Indonesia is the country with the largest Muslim population in the world. It is a democracy, albeit a young and shallow one. India is a democracy, and many Muslims live there and participate vibrantly in support of its political institutions. Turkey is a prime example of a country with a predominantly Muslim population, but a secular government committed to joining the EU. And let's not forget all the Muslims who live in the United States and support the political rights and freedoms we enjoy here!

As you've wisely suggested, it's not appropriate to lump "Muslims" into one category. There are some that love peace, freedom, and democracy, and some that don't. I just want you to have the intellectual courage of your convictions to debate liberals on the terms of their best arguments and recognize that most liberals make distinctions between different types of Muslims, too.

 
At Tue Jun 22, 12:44:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. The individual soldiers are still all morally culpable for their own actions. And it's quite likely they even took their orders "too far" or made too much of the permissivity granted by military intelligence officers.

But when torture becomes permissible as part of the official policy of the United States, I think it's time for us to have a national debate on whether we think that's moral, legal, or even effective.

 
At Tue Jun 22, 12:59:00 PM, Blogger jacob.thrasher said...

I concur. Sin should be punished; no two ways about it.

 

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